#14 Langeweile - Müssen wir wirklich jede freie Minute füllen?

00:00:00: All right, all right.

00:00:03: Hello and welcome to our podcast Hatchism for International.

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00:00:19: what's your name?

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00:00:31: What else was there?

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00:00:46: And Germany as

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00:00:48: Hello and hello

00:00:52: with Darce.

00:00:53: It's nice that you're back

00:00:55: here again.

00:00:55: Today is Sunday again.

00:00:57: We are happy to have you on the show

00:01:00: my dear friends.

00:01:01: And this week

00:01:22: with the person who spoke from a conscious podcast, did you say

00:01:27: that?

00:01:27: I think so.

00:01:28: Deep

00:01:28: Talk was such a format tour and he talked to Mala because she

00:01:33: looks so open-minded!

00:01:34: That's part of our follow-up where we both thought it would be an introvert.

00:01:40: But apparently Mala doesn't look like her either.

00:01:45: So what does that mean?

00:01:46: Probably also that you don't look that

00:01:52: way too... but then we both had fun and

00:01:56: it was a really nice short conversation.

00:01:58: He just asked us a few

00:02:01: questions.

00:02:02: And our first collaboration

00:02:03: with another podcast,

00:02:04: how cool!

00:02:04: We'll do it in

00:02:06: our story too if he's used to that.

00:02:08: That was totally nice.

00:02:09: You have a cup of tea?

00:02:11: I've got one ready for

00:02:16: you.

00:02:17: What is it about

00:02:18: me?

00:02:18: It says here... I understand.

00:02:21: You know, everything becomes a part of the ... What do you mean

00:02:25: by that?

00:02:26: My guide, please

00:02:27: explain it to me!

00:02:29: If one is part

00:02:30: of this whole thing then all will become a part... I have my lucky cake today because when i came here someone gave me such a lucky cake in their hand.

00:02:38: Just

00:02:39: random from the restaurant?

00:02:40: No no, that was already advertising and marketing.

00:02:43: From the

00:02:43: restaurant?!

00:02:44: No, from our supermarket.

00:02:46: Okay, love lucky cakes.

00:02:48: The world is waiting for you to be proud.

00:02:56: But in English it sounds cooler.

00:02:58: I think that's cool, aside from what you like.

00:03:01: I also find it very nice because sometimes the translation of happy

00:03:06: cakes is good too!

00:03:07: Yes but they were beautiful actually.

00:03:09: How are things going

00:03:11: now?

00:03:12: I'm doing

00:03:15: pretty well.

00:03:16: how do you feel?

00:03:17: I'm

00:03:17: doing pretty good too, still.

00:03:21: I just

00:03:24: have a little bit of uni to do things but it's nice that summer is here.

00:03:31: Sorry for interrupting you!

00:03:33: Still?

00:03:34: You're doing well... Oh, still!

00:03:35: You're always doing great!

00:03:38: Okay, let me check.

00:03:40: Yeah, cool.

00:03:41: So it's supposed to stay sunny all the time.

00:03:43: You don't feel like you have to go out in summer because the sun is shining and that's why

00:03:51: you need to use your weather?

00:03:55: Absolutely!

00:03:55: I even really like this.

00:03:57: But for me as well

00:03:57: if i'm on my balcony... I just want a song.

00:04:02: I also need one.

00:04:03: Do I always have an apartment here?

00:04:04: With a balcony?

00:04:05: Here we live at Zeitgeschein.

00:04:07: Who doesn´t actually look?

00:04:08: But I actually have a very privileged, chilly situation.

00:04:13: Because there's an apartment here and I don't have a balcony.

00:04:16: Okay then let me check that you have enough space for your balcony.

00:04:18: And what about yourself?

00:04:22: Actually it wasn't like this because... ...I always

00:04:26: put myself in the head of where I am

00:04:27: at best to not have any kind of fear of missing out on my own.

00:04:32: So I manipulated myself.

00:04:35: You said so yourself!

00:04:37: And then I can also sometimes chill and say, well today is somehow this day but tomorrow it's a new day.

00:04:46: You don't always have to be everywhere.

00:04:50: That's why the sun will appear again in the morning too .

00:04:56: Then maybe i'll go out ,but now you just have to chill because I have to.

00:05:01: But that doesn´t feel very heavy

00:05:02: at times.

00:05:03: So when something becomes boring for me ...and actually I am not a person who is boring enough .... No, so sometimes I'm boring but I

00:05:08: would actually do things.

00:05:08: Do you understand?

00:05:09: Nevertheless, I sometimes have a long while.

00:05:12: And that's what I find when one stays at home all the time and so on.

00:05:16: but as soon as this relaxation is needed for me without other people then also to spend such quality time with oneself .

00:05:24: That's a bit difficult.

00:05:24: That's what I thought too, a presentation on this episode.

00:05:29: It's kind of like two types... well it's true!

00:05:32: We didn't even tell you why we're going here today.

00:05:34: Today is supposed to be a long time ago.

00:05:38: and there are these two kinds.

00:05:41: because the one where you chill at home and scroll down on TikTok and Instagram and social media and do nothing productive which sometimes makes

00:05:51: him okay?

00:05:52: Sometimes.

00:05:54: Yes, sometimes it's even boring for me from Doom Scrolls.

00:05:58: I know that too and sometimes you do this with intention as well...

00:06:03: And yes!

00:06:03: Sometimes i'm really

00:06:04: curious about it

00:06:05: like.. I don't want to do this for two hours now.

00:06:07: only the

00:06:08: scroll or something?

00:06:09: Only the scroll!

00:06:11: That is actually one of the reasons why it

00:06:14: has been boring for a long time.

00:06:16: The other kind of boredom is really

00:06:20: boring and

00:06:21: they also stop.

00:06:22: Oh

00:06:22: god!

00:06:23: Do we have to...?

00:06:23: No, you don't have to say that.

00:06:24: I asked myself

00:06:25: the question.

00:06:25: But for example i like it because of this red light session.

00:06:31: It's just a solarium thing but there is no solarium And then you can't take anything with it, right?

00:06:40: You just lie there for ten minutes and you can do nothing.

00:06:44: Oh yeah that's nice!

00:06:46: And I thought to myself oh no now this is going to be boring.

00:06:51: It was so great because you could even get in touch with your thoughts.

00:07:00: They came up with really creative ideas all of a sudden.

00:07:05: And these ten

00:07:09: minutes

00:07:10: felt like two or three minutes when i was thinking about my thoughts.

00:07:15: I think it's also a huge privilege and blessing.

00:07:19: Yes, I understand that very

00:07:25: well.

00:07:26: But it's been a while since the last time we saw each other.

00:07:32: It was really nice to be with you and to look at the clouds somewhere in the sun.

00:07:38: That is great!

00:07:38: Really?

00:07:38: For me it's not boring, because I'm so nice with

00:07:51: my

00:07:52: thoughts and that is just so positive.

00:07:56: But now again the thing about... I think I define boredom rather as something negative or a feeling of being bored for too long.

00:08:06: And when I lie down like this and am myself then there isn't such a feeling to be bored for so long.

00:08:14: Because if I would do other things

00:08:18: right away Or... I believe in me this time point short before when I somehow don't know anything at all and then tell me

00:08:23: okay

00:08:24: now you know what i mean because it's a little bit boring but that's

00:08:26: understandable.

00:08:28: And very often he

00:08:29: also says so, well at least with my sisters since they were still small people have said to them oh mine is boring and i'm like there are worse

00:08:41: times than in the long

00:08:42: run, honestly look for a place

00:08:43: where you can be

00:08:44: a little bigger because at the same time It's a privilege because it means that you have time to do nothing.

00:08:53: And I think this is something good, so for a long while what great.

00:08:58: and

00:08:58: also space for creativity.

00:08:59: Children especially children who are bored come up with very

00:09:07: exciting ideas.

00:09:08: And at the same time, I think it's also sometimes boring even if you can't do that.

00:09:15: So of course there is a huge privilege when thinking about war and in such a shock state or something like this ... so not being able to breathe.

00:09:25: then you have a hundred percent right but often times it happens for a long while although one would actually really

00:09:34: have to

00:09:34: do what they want.

00:09:35: Is it for a long time or procrastination?

00:09:40: You know that sometimes when you have so much to do, you don't even know where to start.

00:09:46: And then maybe you're just stuck in this state of

00:09:52: being alive!

00:09:54: Yes I know that.

00:09:55: Good question.

00:09:56: So procrastinating is always pushing things on again and again.

00:10:02: Or can you have

00:10:03: a long time in procrastination?

00:10:05: Can I really have a lot

00:10:08: of time if one knows that there's still so much to do at the back of my head?

00:10:15: Because I know... I've got thousands of things to do and it stays with me until i've done them.

00:10:22: Otherwise, I wouldn't be able

00:10:23: to find a long-term opinion either!

00:10:25: Yes yes.. I already know what you mean but is this actually a long while?

00:10:31: Yes, so I've asked Google

00:10:34: once.

00:10:34: Oh, that's Google after a definition?

00:10:36: Yes and he says And that's exciting as well, because

00:10:52: this

00:10:53: is just the definition of Google AI.

00:10:57: But I've already thought about it again right now and we have German societies with us who speak English... Swirren and also especially such topics that are part of our psychological direction, then it's exciting if we use them completely wrong in the everyday life.

00:11:20: I don't know because now here is a core feature in psychology.

00:11:24: Everyone is boring sometimes but let me take a look at this one right away.

00:11:31: so he says too these things to make you feel rather uncomfortable.

00:11:36: Yes, I think

00:11:38: you are restless.

00:11:39: You don't know where to pack your stuff when you have some energy or something like that.

00:11:45: Maybe?

00:11:45: I don´t

00:11:46: know.

00:11:46: Fadesse is in Austrian.

00:11:49: Or Enouie on Latin.

00:11:52: French.

00:11:53: Ah, enoix!

00:11:53: There's a pleasant feeling of wanting to go after a peaceful activity but not be able to do it for long.

00:12:03: one as a monotone

00:12:06: or unadulterated activity.

00:12:07: In school?

00:12:08: That's true!

00:12:09: Especially when I didn't find something exciting, that was horror and then... I couldn't find anything exciting either.

00:12:16: But he also

00:12:17: says it is what you actually want to do but can

00:12:19: not?

00:12:20: I haven't thought about that until now.

00:12:24: For a long time, when... I would like to ride my bike but I can't or they say so because it's on the road for me myself But you know this as

00:12:45: well?

00:12:45: I don´t even know

00:12:47: why but i always have to think of these kids perspective Because most of them had you as a child.

00:12:53: I was alone for a very long time.

00:12:57: And as an individual, you have been with me for quite some time now

00:13:02: and

00:13:04: I had to take care of myself.

00:13:06: It was quite often that you are on an adult event or something.

00:13:12: And it just took so long because we couldn't relate to this and but one shouldn't play either, you have to sit there quietly and stay and I think that's the right thing for definition.

00:13:22: You'd rather do what others like doing ,but you're boring now.

00:13:26: You can't get involved

00:13:27: in the situation.

00:13:30: Just like at school, you have to be there.

00:13:33: You can talk personally and go deeper into it.

00:13:35: But yes, I'm really excited because... The child was so happy to sit with the adults and listen to them.

00:13:44: It also fits to gossip And really

00:13:47: listen to it.

00:13:47: I thought that would be great if they talked about

00:13:50: topics like this Where i just... And didn't even notice, maybe because of me being there for a while.

00:13:57: That's still too much.

00:13:58: But

00:13:58: I've also thought

00:14:02: about it, that often on events, in the best case children connect or something.

00:14:09: but I know that when you're sitting somewhere I don't

00:14:13: want

00:14:14: to do that.

00:14:15: And you're an adult too?

00:14:16: Yes, or we just drive around in a bus.

00:14:18: I think it's still so long because... I hate it!

00:14:21: I'm so impatient.

00:14:22: I recently found my sister so funny Because sometimes when I arrive at the U-Bahn I need to go home again from there and I run away sometimes.

00:14:32: Because of how impatient she is!

00:14:35: That's so weird.

00:14:36: I don't

00:14:37: want to run as if it were me.

00:14:38: It

00:14:39: took so long for me, riding a bus with my child... ...I had the feeling that I was sitting there.

00:14:50: But then we started walking around with our feet like this because you didn´t get on the ground yet?

00:14:58: You know

00:14:58: what

00:15:00: I mean?

00:15:00: And now I think that sometimes situations don't go fast enough.

00:15:10: Or when people talk to me too slowly, then I interrupt and I'm like... You mean this?

00:15:17: Because you're already so curious

00:15:22: about it right?

00:15:23: Yes because one knows exactly what the person wants to say but he just wants

00:15:39: help with it.

00:15:40: But are there any people who can hold out for a long time or Can you find a good thing to do in the long run?

00:15:51: Well, I don't have that much time anymore.

00:15:55: Or sometimes it's hard for me... the technique, like an old woman.

00:16:01: No but I find it difficult and have a problem to take care of myself.

00:16:09: Something as if going to urban sports or something...I'm really looking forward because then you know cool that's now one hour where no cell phone will be available so there is easier than when i am at home right?

00:16:23: And then again look on Instagram and sometimes tell me my phone sometimes at home when I go for a walk on the block or something like that.

00:16:33: that I sometimes say to myself, you don't go on Instagram or your mobile phone and the apps.

00:16:46: Or no apps at all.

00:16:47: You can only take pictures?

00:16:50: Or not at all!

00:16:52: And it's hard for me too... We talked about alcohol addiction in our last episode of Handi.

00:16:58: It is also crazy how the whole algorithm works so long-term.

00:17:03: I always keep scrolling.

00:17:06: And of course, that's what I did as well and then tried to do something like this so little at some point but at the same time sometimes... Oh my God!

00:17:19: My screen-time is ten hours!

00:17:21: I'll take a look for now.

00:17:22: Do you know how long your screen-times are?

00:17:25: It also has charm.

00:17:26: I think it's

00:17:26: average five hours and actually I find five hours already

00:17:33: quite a lot.

00:17:35: Which

00:17:35: app do you watch?

00:17:36: Normally, it's five hours and fifty-six minutes for me.

00:17:39: You don't

00:17:41: say that!

00:17:41: It depends on what you're watching.

00:17:43: For example if someone

00:17:45: is sleeping with a listening game or something like this... That also draws the green

00:17:50: light.

00:17:51: At my point of view there are six hours and thirty-one minutes.

00:17:55: Well, I think that's still valid.

00:17:57: Look at what

00:17:57: you've got there.

00:18:00: Write it in the comments and you'll get all of them.

00:18:03: But yeah... That was crazy!

00:18:03: Or maybe

00:18:04: we had

00:18:05: to do something else?

00:18:06: even though I don't usually Google the things on my phone.

00:18:10: But yeah, WhatsApp alone is good news for you.

00:18:14: Then maybe you take pictures or something like that.

00:18:17: Spotify... Right?

00:18:17: Music.

00:18:17: It's all

00:18:17: green time.

00:18:19: That's crazy!

00:18:20: How about yourself?

00:18:20: Can you keep

00:18:23: it up well?

00:18:23: Absolutely!

00:18:23: I really think this time as a single child has helped me a lot because ...I always find something to do with it but if someone

00:18:33: tells me then everything will be fine.

00:18:36: But there isn´t any

00:18:37: long while.

00:18:38: Because I also always find stuff to do.

00:18:44: Well, okay.

00:18:47: First of all the feeling.

00:18:48: for a long

00:18:49: time.

00:18:49: I actually don't think it looks

00:18:50: so good anymore because last time everyone was busy with my friends.

00:18:53: No you didn't see me You were busy too!

00:18:56: And i said to home It's been like this one day.

00:18:59: What am i doing now?

00:19:00: So then i called some friends

00:19:05: Telephone or?

00:19:06: Yes they weren´t there.

00:19:09: Then I have to stop now and be myself.

00:19:12: And that's not even so easy, because you come into these thoughts quickly or think of nothing like this... You try it when meditating?

00:19:25: I don't know if there is something

00:19:27: wrong with

00:19:28: me right now.

00:19:29: But even while meditating i keep swiping in my thoughts

00:19:35: again.

00:19:35: I don't know if that's what

00:19:38: i want to think about right now.

00:19:45: It's not my goal to think

00:19:51: about anything right now.

00:19:52: That's very general, not that you're in... Oh, whatever.

00:19:57: People will definitely check it out.

00:19:59: I don't think so!

00:20:01: But somehow there is a nice thought to have and I also don't know- I'm not going to choose myself now either because like I said before I'm already thinking about it today I don't really need it on my phone or right now.

00:20:25: But somehow, she doesn't want me to get so mad at her because when you say that maybe things are going better for them and some people might not be able to think about what they're thinking in their own way.

00:20:52: And as you said this is also a long time ago, sometimes even a bit of a privilege.

00:21:02: Yes!

00:21:02: And those thoughts which will let her go into the world... That's when I'm like, no now let me watch a beautiful series and then... Yeah but that

00:21:10: too.

00:21:11: That you even have the time to really put yourself in there and

00:21:16: watch

00:21:16: a

00:21:17: certain

00:21:18: series

00:21:19: And it is something beautiful But

00:21:21: maybe just a little bit.

00:21:21: Maybe it's a bit of the thing that you don't have to have all these long moments, but also that we just go around more consciously and sometimes with longer times.

00:21:33: So maybe you notice this moment briefly And then one can continue watching.

00:21:36: You don't need to sit still somewhere and somehow close your eyes But you could say Okay, yeah.

00:21:45: I think that for a long time also sometimes with such a little bit of bad conscience one goes.

00:21:54: I don't know if you have it like this too.

00:21:59: Sometimes when i do nothing then i'm like oh god Do

00:22:01: you know?

00:22:02: Because there is

00:22:02: always something to be done.

00:22:04: There's never an opportunity where you can't do anything.

00:22:07: So cleaning the apartment or what are some things you're doing that make you go to a doctor appointment again for prophylaxis.

00:22:10: I sometimes find it hard to know that you have so much on my plate, but at the same time not doing anything

00:22:23: right now.

00:22:25: Then there is also such a bad person like me.

00:22:32: You?

00:22:32: Yes!

00:22:32: That's what i especially know from school days.

00:22:36: and then I always tried so hard

00:22:39: trying

00:22:40: and did this as well And I think... I

00:22:42: still

00:22:43: try very hard But no!

00:22:46: I think I had something.

00:22:48: I just allow it.

00:22:49: Me.

00:22:49: and then sometimes when others are like, oh God!

00:22:50: I woke up so late... Then I'm also sometimes like, that doesn't matter.

00:22:54: It's not bad because it is good too and sometimes the body needs to sleep longer And after two days you have completely powered through So you can also sleep.

00:23:05: Yeah, but I already know it.

00:23:06: Of course i know that and try to counteract for myself.

00:23:10: But this is again the whole of society The social pressure That you have to be as productive as possible And actually also this trend over which we've talked a lot And this optimization trend.

00:23:23: You should stand up at eight Then go jogging round and then come back and there's your healthy... Then

00:23:28: put an iron in your head An iron Yes!

00:23:29: That's right.

00:23:29: It's

00:23:31: also such a trend With your puffy eyes.

00:23:35: Then you take a short break for ten minutes and read to your child.

00:23:39: Yes, that's nice if it works like this sometimes too.

00:23:43: but for me sometimes it works so that some days look like this.

00:23:46: Some days they look like that day until eleven or twelve.

00:23:52: asleep is of course also depending on how his life looks when he has to work.

00:23:58: You can't do that, depending on what kind of job you have.

00:24:02: For me it's like this... I've got layers and they start very early or later in the day.

00:24:07: And also unity.

00:24:09: so from there is a little bit flexible or different in planning but even if one has the opportunity to sleep sometimes, which was so embarrassing for me before Although at some point I was just shamelessly too late.

00:24:29: Because that wasn't because of my sleep, but it had been a long time since then and so I couldn´t assess the time well enough.

00:24:40: That's where I think, oh my god.

00:24:42: What you said yesterday... You don't need to worry anymore if it's already too late.

00:24:46: And of course there is a difference between five minutes and an hour.

00:24:51: There are things like that for me as well.

00:24:55: I see that it's a matter of respect for the other person who is waiting.

00:25:06: But things can happen if you're asleep, or you're tired and want to stay at home while the sun shines on your face... You just sleep until twelve.

00:25:23: And then you don't have to say it every day, but yeah... Time

00:25:27: is actually the most valuable thing we've got in this world and somehow when I chilled out at home for two or three days and scrolled doom or did nothing like that I'm really afraid of slipping into this depression.

00:25:45: And then you

00:25:46: have to do

00:25:48: something quickly, because I also know that if it's about sports now It would be better for me.

00:25:52: Then in the meantime, health will get better Because i think one can lose a little bit in this long while.

00:25:59: Yes full and at the same time like depression and so on are no longer a long while.

00:26:05: But

00:26:05: what does it feel like?

00:26:07: You feel useless somehow

00:26:10: but at the moment you can't do anything.

00:26:12: Yeah yes That's right!

00:26:13: I believe he feels

00:26:17: exactly the

00:26:18: same way.

00:26:19: It's a disease.

00:26:23: Yes, actually it is.

00:26:25: And then I wouldn't say for a long while that there isn´t suicide in the long run or something like this... ...that you feel bad and so on.

00:26:32: but yes, no one can really feel that way.

00:26:36: That´s why I can go around

00:26:41: with a long time.

00:26:43: But she has to be limited and then also conscious.

00:26:47: Okay, consciousness!

00:26:49: I don't do anything for two days at home.

00:26:51: Molle?

00:26:52: Yeah,

00:26:53: that's awesome!

00:26:54: Chill in bed...I even

00:26:56: have a breakfast and a bag and it smells really nice in

00:27:02: here.

00:27:03: That is not boring either but if you had a long while then this would be great too.

00:27:09: And yeah i totally understand why people need these things.

00:27:15: so there are different reasons hard or in depressive phases rutscht und kommt.

00:27:21: And I think it's important to have this consciousness, like you said.

00:27:32: But maybe not that she just comes out of nowhere but says with intention, so now I sleep until twelve o'clock because my body needs me right away trying to check myself and then new power tank, because we said that in some episode.

00:27:55: You can help others and be there for them if you are there yourself again.

00:28:00: And sometimes something like this happens to me as well... I don't know but now i was sick at the time so it has to happen because

00:28:16: of my need

00:28:17: to be there.

00:28:17: I don´t like that.

00:28:19: And then sometimes it happens, you know that too.

00:28:23: Okay now I'm doing a lot of things and I can't do anything anymore!

00:28:28: I am not healthy again... You just take over or you slip in from something like this?

00:28:36: I hate

00:28:37: everything.

00:28:37: Too much.

00:28:39: But yes there are two different points which is very important.

00:28:43: But at the same

00:28:44: time If I think about it for a long time,

00:28:50: there are

00:28:53: also very boring people.

00:28:56: They never come up with ideas and don't want to do

00:28:59: anything

00:29:00: creative.

00:29:04: And then we're like, how boring is that?

00:29:07: Don't be so boring!

00:29:11: Yes but

00:29:11: what's the

00:29:15: point of looking

00:29:17: at someone who looks at you because... Maybe

00:29:20: we are also boring for some.

00:29:22: Yes,

00:29:22: probably yes.

00:29:22: Do you think so?

00:29:23: Of course!

00:29:23: Yes, boring personalities... Totally!

00:29:24: I don't

00:29:24: even think that many

00:29:26: people like

00:29:29: it at all.

00:29:29: Some people don´t like podcast or find it not so exciting and the topics they are interested in aren´t so interesting to them.

00:29:37: That can be definitely boring for someone too but I guess we're on our own now.

00:29:46: Yes, for some people they

00:29:50: are probably

00:29:51: boring people.

00:29:52: They always do the same thing.

00:29:55: I am super bored anyway!

00:29:57: And then... Is there really a question?

00:30:00: So yes, there is boring people who look at our own eyes.

00:30:05: People like this... It's

00:30:07: just a thesis, but many also claim that the new generation and young people can no longer deal with boredom or this feeling of boredom.

00:30:17: Because we are spread out in the world by social media... Yeah, I don't

00:30:24: think you can... You probably will never be able to say that in general.

00:30:29: But as you can see there are certain trends and things like this.

00:30:34: As far back as what you're saying is so much joy alone when it comes out of the box.

00:30:39: It's all for light somehow because we're still a big city but then your cell phone and everything goes off.

00:30:50: And in the long run And then we also have trends like Tread Wife and want to go back here.

00:30:55: We do our sourdough bread, sorghum.

00:30:58: This is something that celebrates and makes us a new generation.

00:31:06: And I think this desire comes first from a desire for peace, which may not be so wrong at the beginning.

00:31:13: Which will then become very strange and politicized.

00:31:20: Treadrive is such an phenomenon that... I don't know, maybe we just cut it short.

00:31:26: So many women who actually go back to the fifties a little bit more.

00:31:34: And that's not bad or anything bad at first but then you get stuck as if... We're kind of like, well, not advertising but it gets undefined.

00:31:46: I mean, if you want to be a housewife it's not bad at first.

00:31:50: But that is coupled with different political opinions and is actually such a real trend.

00:31:56: wave like the Pondant to Manusphere.

00:32:00: Google Manasphere Tread Wife.

00:32:03: I find this very exciting.

00:32:05: Maybe I should write my bachelor thesis about

00:32:07: it?

00:32:07: Really?

00:32:08: Very exciting!

00:32:09: And also... I didn't think about it yet because we're wasting time here again but that would have been something.

00:32:16: Anyway, I think that this is also part of it.

00:32:19: This longing for peace or this longing to zero waste... Zero Waste is a great trend somewhere but certainly also full privilege and the rooms and apartments are all in beige.

00:32:32: We see so much and colorful.

00:32:35: This generation is so much more visible, to have peace in everything.

00:32:44: And of course also with the political situation that we find a great right back and such That people then actually take a step back again.

00:32:56: Again an old pattern like somehow women can do this or not.

00:32:58: Somehow things which are already fought want to go back again And how the political situation gets narrower, so they also get

00:33:07: their back longer.

00:33:10: So...

00:33:11: People are needy-oriented beings and the more we have to say about availability, I mean in the end it's only consuming again.

00:33:23: The more consumption that you have, less for a long time or at least you have the chance to experience this for a long time.

00:33:33: And I think now one has to take these moments consciously, say because they're taking their time for a while.

00:33:40: That's

00:33:40: kind of the difference in the early days that we don't... Now it's even more on the market?

00:33:44: Yes!

00:33:44: You

00:33:45: can't take them so easily.

00:33:46: Exactly right.

00:33:46: and

00:33:47: therefore there is also this... So exactly ...I believe not being able to do things as well as possible doesn't really answer me.

00:33:51: One probably can no longer be good enough but sometimes strange trends arise from those.

00:33:54: But then again that a lot of people see it, and there are other ways to become straightwifes in order to get back into the pure and be more conscious.

00:34:09: After

00:34:10: a long time I often have the need for stress and structure... I like this kind of stress

00:34:17: in

00:34:18: life otherwise I wouldn't come up so high.

00:34:21: I would take many days off work.

00:34:23: I have to stand up.

00:34:24: But you?

00:34:24: Yes, but that has to be... No!

00:34:26: It can't

00:34:28: be like this.

00:34:28: Yes, it's exciting.

00:34:29: I think..I need.... To stand up for a reason, yes, but then i see in so many...in so much also in a long while.

00:34:39: In such a long time too.

00:34:41: No, no, but I check with these structures.

00:34:45: I believe structure is somehow important to me as well.

00:34:49: That doesn´t really close out

00:34:51: for a very long period of time either.

00:34:52: Absolutely not.

00:34:53: Do you

00:34:53: actually have any moments during the week?

00:34:56: Man, I don't have one.

00:34:57: Have you heard of it?

00:34:58: Then do

00:34:58: your best!

00:34:58: Yes but i already told the moment a little bit that at this red light therapy and for me was also just again wellness and having this conscious long time and doing something good

00:35:14: about it.

00:35:16: yes too That's my glow moment these

00:35:19: weeks.

00:35:20: Beautiful!

00:35:23: I don't really have one, but maybe there will be a better one soon.

00:35:29: Or rather many of them.

00:35:30: As we always think about it... I know what to say!

00:35:34: Right now.

00:35:35: in recent times I've been riding a bike more often.

00:35:39: So I love bike riding in general.

00:35:40: But i don't have it anymore and that's why I always ride with this next bike, because as a student... And yes, so Rabat!

00:35:46: But there isn´t much more for me either.

00:35:48: Oh really?

00:35:49: Yes of course.

00:35:50: That is cool cause you can also go somewhere with bikes but you don´t need to drive back.

00:35:54: Then I also discovered electro-bikes which are great too.

00:35:59: And then I just rode my bike and somehow the sun shines on me and somehow this feeling from freedom at some point was a little bit boring.

00:36:07: your cell phone when you're driving, but you just look around and I didn't listen to music because most of the time i'm a person like that.

00:36:15: I always hear music everywhere where we go cause it's too much for me to drive from outside otherwise.

00:36:24: And if I drove through such a quiet street with us It was so beautiful and somehow the

00:36:33: birds are chirping.

00:36:33: That would have been

00:36:35: an amazing moment this week.

00:36:36: Yes, it fits you a bit too.

00:36:37: How nice!

00:36:38: And do you have an recommendation?

00:36:41: I have one and I'm looking for it right now because i don't know how the film is called... I've always watched a movie on Netflix which was about what the cell phone does to us.

00:36:56: Do you know this film?

00:36:58: Exactly

00:37:00: Dilemma?

00:37:00: Blah blah blah dilemma.

00:37:01: That's

00:37:02: what he is, I think.

00:37:04: But the dilemma with social media.

00:37:06: And maybe

00:37:07: today

00:37:09: again... I looked at him a long time ago and especially in the conversation the first recommendation came

00:37:16: to

00:37:16: me.

00:37:17: Yes that's it!

00:37:17: The dilemma of social media... It's also

00:37:19: a bit like confrontation therapy.

00:37:21: You notice too right?

00:37:22: How you don't have to be controlled by the meta.

00:37:25: There are psychologists behind it, right?

00:37:29: That's what they create so that people become more transparent

00:37:34: about themselves.

00:37:34: And this is kind

00:37:36: of exciting and fits into the

00:37:37: topic.

00:37:37: but I also don't want... bad knowledge or something like that.

00:37:41: Because as I said, sometimes you can do it too and say to yourself, I'm just with me now in peace... That's how you think at the beginning of your life.

00:37:57: It is also a privilege for us to be able to do so And I check this here because I cannot always be with my thoughts.

00:38:06: So then there are times when things don't get better Where I think some people turn away from each other And they don't come to this

00:38:13: point that you can think about it every time.

00:38:15: Yes, but I also... They run away from their feelings and thoughts.

00:38:17: Yeah, totally!

00:38:18: But somehow I believe that's legitimate too sometimes in terms of times as well.

00:38:21: so naturally at best if you deal with something with a topic which is your own thing but sometimes running away is also an survival strategy sometimes right?

00:38:32: So yes ... Of course when possible people It's always nice to be with yourself or Just

00:38:39: to go

00:38:40: in the park and also so much.

00:38:42: I think it's nice sometimes doing something alone, you're like that too, right?

00:38:45: But not easy sometimes

00:38:46: as well.

00:38:47: So this point when i do then i'm like oh my god is so beautiful!

00:38:50: I have to do it even more often.

00:38:51: but This point of me now at home no one has time or such.

00:38:58: Then I just go out by myself.

00:38:59: Now all these steps really need to be done.

00:39:02: You know what I mean?

00:39:04: And if you're there, it's so beautiful.

00:39:06: But sometimes it is also such an overcoming with yourself.

00:39:10: Full!

00:39:11: Yes...

00:39:12: I would do more things alone too ... I think that's not just about this journey but

00:39:17: yes.

00:39:18: My recommendation definitely went out of Berlin , but for other cities as well .

00:39:27: So generally gone out, can be found on Instagram.

00:39:29: I put it in the show notes.

00:39:30: But also tip Berlin, if you have a long while, just look there because they always have cool things.

00:39:36: Always programs that run like this every week up to date and where one can go once too.

00:39:46: If

00:39:46: you've been out for a long time You could sometimes let yourself get into such a crazy dream.

00:39:51: And then concerts and so on.

00:39:53: That's what happens often.

00:39:54: There

00:39:55: are also secret concerts From whom the concert is and sometimes it's really crazy.

00:39:59: Yes, yes very good And with pleasure.

00:40:01: It's also a good thing because there are many cities too.

00:40:05: Really?

00:40:06: Yes I don't know about that But with pleasure you can always look well at each one with pleasure Berlin with pleasure Hamburg or

00:40:17: something like that.

00:40:20: You definitely never had that for a long time.

00:40:23: Perfect Maler Perfect.

00:40:25: Alright, that's

00:40:27: it for today and we hope you liked the episode!

00:40:28: And in best case she didn't make it because... Or maybe she made it because of a long time ago.

00:40:36: You can do something more consciously now.

00:40:38: But yeah I

00:40:41: was happy to record with her again.

00:40:46: It really is a

00:40:47: lot of fun.

00:40:48: Me too.

00:40:49: On the one hand, it's work.

00:40:51: But on the other side of course there is a check-up every week with your girlfriend... I don't have that with my friends because they really

00:40:58: keep me in their hearts and also like this.

00:41:02: I think it's a little bit like therapy, but sometimes we're both pretty busy.

00:41:07: And then there are times when you say oh god now this is already one week around

00:41:14: again

00:41:15: or something?

00:41:15: Now i want to look at the topic as quickly as possible and then you can't do that!

00:41:24: Then I'm always like oh no ... so if we talk about each other ,I really like it because it's kind of such a small safe space.

00:41:32: Oh, it's kind of just beautiful.

00:41:33: And there I don't have our

00:41:35: mobile phones

00:41:36: with me either.

00:41:37: So... Oh, D&D!

00:41:38: D&E?

00:41:38: Do not disturb!

00:41:38: Ah, great!

00:41:39: D & E!

00:41:39: That's

00:41:39: how we call the episode.

00:41:42: Oh my god,

00:41:42: you're so good at this!

00:41:42: Alright

00:41:45: then,

00:41:45: let us know

00:41:46: what you've been up to for

00:41:49: a

00:41:50: while now.

00:41:50: Yes, do you still have any short questions?

00:41:54: Have you ever had friends together in a long time?

00:41:57: I actually have some friends Almost boring, I always have something to talk about.

00:42:01: Yes because i also have friends with whom it is boring and that's so cool!

00:42:07: And we must do this too.

00:42:09: We haven't done a sleepover yet So you just chill out and then you don't even talk anymore.

00:42:16: That feeling when one

00:42:18: is on vacation together and everyone

00:42:19: looks at my pictures or something like that Just not talking and sometimes it's so nice But it doesn't work with everyone.

00:42:28: And I think we both have to get rid of our other people-preaser stuff, because otherwise the whole time i'm thinking oh god

00:42:38: this is too boring and you're thinking about me?

00:42:40: Yes but in our vacation it worked out quite well.

00:42:41: Although that was a punishment program as well We didn´t

00:42:45: had much for a long while.

00:42:46: No actually we did pretty good

00:42:49: for those few days.

00:42:50: Until next week!

00:42:51: Bye!

00:42:51: Have a nice Sunday!

00:42:53: Bye bye.

00:43:15: Do you want the other half?

00:43:16: Yes, but do you want

00:43:17: this one or not?

00:43:18: Okay then I'll take it.

00:43:20: It's delicious!

00:43:23: We can

00:43:26: always make a new podcast theme.

00:43:29: Ah, that makes sense too!